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The Gowers review

OUT-LAW Radio, 07/12/2006

We dig deep into the Gowers report and find recommendations for pricier CDs and a return to hip hop's glory days, plus an update on Gary McKinnon's extradition case.


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Hello and welcome to OUT-LAW Radio, the weekly podcast that keeps you up to date on all the twists and turns in the world of technology law.

Every week we bring you the latest news and in depth features that help you to make sense of the ever-changing laws that govern technology today.

My name is Matthew Magee, and coming up on this week's show we look at how the Gowers review could result in more expensive CDs, and we catch up with NASA hacker Gary McKinnon for the latest on his appeal against extradition to the US.

But first, the news.


  • UK citizens will face fine rather than sign up to ID card register;
  • seven years for man who sneaked camcorder into cinemas; and
  • ad ban does not breach human rights, says High Court

Hundreds of thousands of people will refuse to sign up to the UK Government's planned identity register, according to just-published research. Around 8% of those surveyed said they would refuse to sign up to the database even if they are fined.

The survey was carried out by polling firm YouGov on behalf of the Daily Telegraph Newspaper and in a sample of nearly 2000 people found that a significant proportion were prepared to defy the Government over the database.

If the figures are extrapolated to the entire UK population of 60 million people they mean that 23.4 million people would oppose the database and 4.8 million would be prepared to face a fine for resisting signing up. If just 2% of the country's over 16s refused to register then the Government would face a one million person revolt, the Telegraph said.

A man convicted of recording films using a camcorder in cinemas has been sentenced in the US to seven years in jail. The man was the first to be charged in a nationwide campaign against video piracy.

Johnny Ray Gasca was found guilty in 2005 of copyright infringement. He was also convicted of using a fake Social Security number and of fleeing his lawyer's custody while awaiting trial. He represented himself in his trial, which lasted a week.

Gasca said that he did not record the films for profit, but the prosecution case included diary excerpts in which Gasca wrote that he earned $4,000 a week through his actions. "it is hoped the sentence will deter further unlawful conduct and protect the public," the judge in the case said.

The Communications Act's banning of political adverts does not violate rights to free speech, the High Court has ruled. An animal rights pressure group has lost its case, though it may appeal it to the House of Lords.

Animal Defenders International (ADI) want to be able to advertise in broadcasts, which is banned by the Communications Act. It argued that the Act infringes its rights to free speech and therefore breaches the European Convention on Human Rights.

One of the Judges in the case Justice Ouseley in rejecting ADI's case said "The necessity for restrictions on political and social advocacy broadcast advertising outside elections periods has been convincingly shown."

That was this week's OUT-LAW News.


The long awaited Gowers report was published yesterday. Tasked with analysing and reviewing the laws on intellectual property by Gordon Brown, former Financial Times Editor Andrew Gowers came up with a surprisingly unadventurous set of recommendations. More of a fine tune than a total rebuild, the Gowers report nonetheless had some pretty far out tricks up its sleeve.

The headline news was that Gowers said that copyright on performances should not be extended beyond the current 50 years and that people should be able to copy their own CDs onto their computers and MP3 players.

Look closer at that recommendation, though, and something startling begins to emerge: Gowers is effectively recommending that CD prices should rise.

The European Copyright Directive says that a country can have a right to private copying, but that some compensation must be made to artists. Across Europe that is done by an extra charge on blank CDs and MO3 players. Gowers says that there should be no levy, and that, effectively, record labels should up the prices if they want compensation. Intellectual property expert at Pinsent Masons, the law firm behind OUT-LAW, Kim Walker explains:

"I think Gowers accepts that it is a blunt instrument and he says that you know controversially I think he says that the record companies can effectively get the fair compensation that they are entitled to for allowing private copying by putting up the price of CDs while the Directive says that if number of states are going to allow a private copying exemption they must afford the record companies the right to get fair compensation and I think Gowers is saying they would have the right to get fair compensation because they could just adjust the price of CDs."

There are other possible solutions, though. Kay Withers of the Institute for Public Policy Research recently told OUT-LAW Radio that you could have no levy and still stay in line with the European law:

"There has to be suitable financial compensation. I mean we feel that suitable financial compensation in this sense is none really because it is not actually harming the artist."

Perhaps even more radically, though, Gowers entered a debate few expected him to. He wants the music industry to return to the hip hop glory days of the '80s when sampling was rampant. Gowers says that transformative and derivative works must be made legal.

Suw Charman of technology rights pressure group The Open Rights Group explains.

"The Gowers report recognises how important it is for a range of different art forms, not just music but they also talk about Pablo Picasso and T S Eliot and you know being able to sample themes and motives and segments of prior work is very important to creativity and as they say the crucial point should be whether transformative use compromises the commercial interest of the original creator or offends the artistic integrity of the original creator."

The most obvious use is in music with sampling. Gowers wants the law to give much more leeway to artists. Kim Walker again.

"It is probably the most interesting suggestion in the whole report, the boldest suggestion in the whole report in my view in that it is trying to create really a whole new exemption from copyright infringement or exception to copyright infringement. So it is really saying that if you take someone else's work and in a fair way, whatever that means, you develop it to create a new work then you are not infringing the rights in the earlier work and you don't have to get clearance if you do it fairly. In the US where they have a similar right as I say under their fair use doctrine you know what is fair has been narrowed over the years so in fact the right to create a derivative work in particular you know the most common example is sampling in the record industry you know that right has been narrowed by the Courts in the US over the years so in fact the right to sample is very narrow in the US. Gowers seems to be saying you know he doesn't want it to be a very narrow right and in the US it is almost now so narrow that you can't sample without getting clearances, and Gowers seems to be saying he would like the right to be as it was in the early days in the US."

This proposal is probably the most radical in his report, and would transform copyright law and music if it was adopted.

Record labels are happy with the private right to copy, though not so happy about the lack of a levy. They will oppose the changes to derivative works with their every fibre, and they also come under some scrutiny for their own copyright protection methods.

Gowers says that putting digital rights management technology on to CDs can be confusing and misleading. Sony/BMG famously put DRM on a release which cause all sorts of trouble for users' computers. Gowers now wants DRM warning labels to be put on all CDs that carry the technology. Charman approves.

"That is something that is going to allow the market to allow consumers to know what they are getting and to know to make an informed choice about whether or not they want to buy. I think you know it shouldn't just be discs that are labelled. We need to be technology neutral in this so it needs to be not just labelling discs but also labelling downloads. At the moment you can buy what you think is a CD or you can buy a download and discover the restrictions once you have handed your money over and it's all too late."


Gary McKinnon says he has been told that his appeal against extradition to the US could be heard in a matter of weeks, and that he could be on his way to America after a January Court case.

McKinnon is the hacker who broke into the US military and NASA computer systems and claims he saw evidence of alien life. He recently told OUT-LAW of how he was snatched in the middle of the night by Police but later released and told he would probably only face community service.

The US Government got involved, though, and want to extradite him to the US where he has been called the perpetrator of the military hack of the century and threatened with up to 70 years in jail.

OUT-LAW Radio caught up with McKinnon to see how his Appeal against the extradition order is going.

GM: Babar Ahmed who was in front of me in the pipeline for extradition, he has lost his Appeal so I assume that now he has gone through that process and I should get my Appeal pretty soon.

MM: Is anyone giving you any idea of a kind of time frame?

GM: I should think it would either be this month or next month.

McKinnon has been told that his case will last just two or three days. He has no automatic right of Appeal after that and can only request permission to go to the House of Lords. He is not confident of success in that request.

GM: If I don't win the Appeal, then I can apply for leave to Appeal to the House of Lords, but that is not an automatic right. For instance the NatWest Three applied for leave to Appeal to the House of Lords and were refused it and everyone was gobsmacked because you know they're hardly petty criminals and it was a very big important case.

A Romanian, Victor Faur, has just been indicted in the US for similar alleged crimes to McKinnon's and the US is seeking his extradition from Romania. McKinnon thinks that Faur could face even more serious charges than him, and that the security in US sites is even less secure now than it was when he broke in in 2001.

"There was a conspiracy as well in legal terms. There was more than one person doing it. If they all dismantled whatever security mechanisms were in place, and as you know from my experience, there were little or none.  Every year they rate civil and military installation and security and every year its gets worse and worse. It is not the leading concern, they want profit as the motive and continue and operation as the motive. Safety and security always comes last because they are the highest outlay, the highest cost outlay."

Gary McKinnon there, with an update on his case.


That's all we have time for this week, thanks for listening.

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