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Schemes to skirt copyright law

OUT-LAW Radio, 15/03/2007

We look at two imaginative ways that companies are trying to give copyright law a body swerve, and talk to the lawyer helping one German millionaire stand up to Google.


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Hello and welcome to OUT-LAW Radio, the weekly Podcast that keeps you up to date on all the twists and turns in the world of technology law. Every week we bring you the latest news and in depth features that help you to make sense of the ever-changing laws that govern technology today. My name is Matthew Magee and coming up on this week’s show we ask: Have a cricketing website and Newsnight found loopholes in copyright law? And we talk to the lawyer representing the German millionaire who is standing up to Google.

But first, the news.


  • Viacom sues YouTube in billion dollar copyright case; and
  • Banks break the law by binning personal data, says privacy watchdog.

Viacom has launched a $1 billion lawsuit against YouTube and its owners, Google over copyright infringing videos hosted by the site. The case could test the limits of the “safe harbour” protections for internet service providers and influence other user generated content sites.

The entertainment giant said that its clips have been viewed more than 1.5 billion times without its permission and has sued the search giant and its video sharing subsidiary in a New York court for ”massive international copyright infringement”. If the case goes to trial it is likely to test the limits of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act of 1998. Google claims “safe harbour” status for YouTube, which is a DMCA protection designed for search engines, web hosts and ISPs to shield them against liability for third party copyright infringements. Similar protections exist in European laws. The Viacom case will test those protections.


High street banks are throwing customer information into bins outside their premises in breach of the Data Protection Act, according to privacy watchdog the Information Commissioner.

The Information Commissioner’s office has forced 11 banks and financial institutions to sign an undertaking to stick to the principles laid down in the Data Protection Act when it comes to dealing with customer data. The businesses were found to have discarded personal information in waste bins and receptacles outside their premises. The companies involved were Halifax Bank of Scotland, Alliance & Leicester, Royal Bank of Scotland, Scarborough Building Society, Clydesdale Bank, Natwest, United National Bank, Barclays Bank, Co-operative Bank, HFC Bank, Nationwide Building Society and the Post Office.

In addition to the financial companies, the Immigration Advisory Service was also found to have disposed of information in a similar way. The Information Commissioner has said that if the organisations fail to stick to the undertakings they have signed they will face further action from him and could face prosecution. It is a criminal offence to fail to comply with an enforcement notice of the Information Commissioner’s Office.

That was this week’s Out-Law news.


When is a breach of copyright not a breach of copyright? And how much do you have to change something in order to get away with reproducing it? And can you get around the law just by being a bit smart?

These delicate questions are being raised in recent days by two incidents in which media companies have made innovative attempts to skirt copyright law and give their viewers what they want. But did they get away with it? And can you do the same? Out Law Radio decided to investigate.

The Cricket World Cup began this week in the West Indies but without an expensive Sky Sports subscription you will not be seeing any of the action unless, that is, you log on to cricinfo.com.

Run by the people behind the Wisden Cricketing Almanac, the site creates animations of matches showing you exactly what is going on, ball by scintillating ball. It is an ingenious, even crafty, way of being able to show UK viewers what is going on without paying millions for the coverage rights. But is it legal? Kim Walker, media specialist at Pinsent Masons, the law firm behind Out-Law.

Kim Walker: Well, Sky clearly own the copyright in the broadcast and that is what they have paid millions of pounds for and the question really is whether what cricinfo.com are doing is copying that broadcast – copying that copyright work. And it seemed to me that if they have technologies, a software application which literally captures the broadcast and tracks it and converts it into an animated form then I think it is pretty hard to argue that is not copying the broadcast and therefore an infringement of copyright. If on the other hand, what they are doing is some guy is manually looking at the television screen and using his own efforts to create a new animated version of what is going on in the field of play over in the Caribbean, then that may not be an infringement of copyright because, you know, the cricinfo.com guy may be creating his own copyright work albeit based on what he knows is going on - he knows through the broadcast what is going on on the field of play.

Wisden has plunged head first into the greyest of grey areas, but it says it is sure of its legal ground. Wisden sent us this statement.

Wisden Statement: Cricinfo 3D is based on public domain information gathered by our scorers who record a number of factors such as where the ball pitched, the type of shot played and where the ball goes in the field. That data is then fed as an xml to anyone who has Cricinfo 3D running on their desktops and the software generates an animation based on this data. The animation is not live match coverage. It is generated from a relatively small number of different animations and so the detail is limited. It is not comparable to television. All of the legal opinion we consulted prior to the development of 3D confirmed that the service would not infringe any commercial rights.

Sky Television also sent us a statement in which they seemed largely undisturbed by the competition.

Sky Statement: We are confident in the strength of the service we will be offering our customers during this year’s World Cup. A cartoon animation is no substitute for live, ball by ball expert commentary.

The BBC though may have come off less well in its dalliance with copyright law in recent days. Conservative party leader David Cameron featured in every national newspaper recently posing with a posh Oxford University dining club in his student days. Showing him kitted out in custom made coat tails, the image punctured the carefully constructed myth of Cameron as an ordinary bloke. But permission to reproduce the photo quickly evaporated as the photo agency which took it - an old fashioned firm with deep roots in Oxford University - refused to give permission for its copyrighted picture to be reproduced.

BBC current affairs show Newsnight went ahead anyway and showed the picture. The image they showed, though, was an oil painting of the photo that they had commissioned. Would that really get around a copyright restriction? Walker does not think so.

Walker: I don’t think it would, no. I still think that is copying a copyright work albeit, you know, in a different medium. A photograph of a photograph is still an infringement of copyright in the original photograph and if you make an oil painting you are still copying the photograph. You might be adapting it from one medium to another but that is still an infringement of copyright. There is an exemption from copyright infringement [of] fair dealing with the copyright work for the purpose of reporting current events. But the problem with that is that it does not apply to photographs.

Copyright law is notoriously tricky, filled with grey areas requiring interpretation and nuance. The message for this week is: if you want to get around a copyright law, you are going to have to try just a bit harder than Newsnight and maybe even harder than Wisden.


Google has long ago shaken off the image as the beneficent, naïve force for good that it cultivated in its early Silicon Valley days. It is so awesomely powerful now that it seems unstoppable, and it now uses its muscle in the same way as any other massive corporation: to get what it wants.

But one man is standing up to Google. He is Daniel Giersch, a German businessman behind a G-mail service that long predated Google’s free web-based e-mail. He established a postal business in Germany with an e-mail component which he named G-mail after his surname. Then, Google came calling. We talked to Sebastian Eble of Preu Bohlig & Partners, the trade mark specialist law firm representing Giersch.

Sebastian Eble: He applied for this trade mark in the year 2000 and the trade mark seeks protection for postal service on the one hand but also e-mail services, telecommunication, etc and then started using his trademark G-mail for e-mail services and telecommunications in the year 2003. I think in November 2004 that he heard that Google was starting e-mail service a beta test phase named G-mail in the United States so his lawyers contacted Google, I think, in November or December 2005 but Google had at that time not shown any interest to talking to Daniel.

Giersch met Google head on in the courts, and has so far won his cases. He has ongoing fights in Norway, Monaco and Switzerland, but Germany has been the primary battleground.

Sebastian Eble: We have a primary injunction which is still valid so Google had to change its name from Gmail to googlemail. Parallel to the primary injunction we started the main litigation which was necessary because the injunction is only a provisional procedure and we have a first decision from the court in May 2006 which was also appealed by Google, so now we are in the appeal procedure in front of the court of appeal in Hamburg.

Giersch has even resisted Google’s attempts to buy him out, turning down a quarter of a million dollars and apparently being prepared to turn down millions. Of course it does help that Giersch is very, very rich.

Sebastian Eble: So the German lawyers of Google contacted me and respectively Daniel in order to ask what was his aim and if he was ready to sell his trade mark for US$250,000. But Daniel made it from the beginning clear that he had never had the goal to sell his trade mark. Daniel is a millionaire so you know, €250,000 is for Daniel not a big amount of money and on your other hand his aim or his goal is to do big business with this G-mail trademark. G mail is a little bit like Daniel’s baby so it was never a question for him to sell his trade mark. Even if they would, I do not know, offer him millions I do not think that Daniel would sell it because it is like his little baby, like Giersch-mail, so it is named G-mail so he plans to do and is doing business under this trade mark.

His cases are ongoing but for now it looks like somebody has got the upper hand on Google.


That is all we have time for this week, thanks for listening.

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Make sure you tune in next week; for now, goodbye.


OUT-LAW Radio was produced and presented by Matthew Magee for International Law Firm Pinsent Masons. Statements were read by Luisa Deas.

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