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OUT-LAW Radio, 22/03/2007

We discover that operators of now-controversial premium rate phone quizzes will soon need lottery licences, and we find out when it's OK for one game developer to copy another.


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Hello and welcome to OUT-LAW Radio, the weekly podcast that keeps you up to date on all the twists and turns in the world of technology law. Every week we bring you the latest news and in depth features that help you to make sense of the ever-changing laws that govern technology today.

My name is Matthew Magee, and coming up on this week’s show we reveal that premium rate TV phone-ins will soon need a lottery licence and we look at a court ruling that says that some computer game copying is ok.

But first, the news.


  • Discount music website loses six-year battle with the music industry; and
  • Google will anonymise searches after two years.

A group of record labels has won its High Court case against online music retailer CD WOW! which was found to have infringed copyright and been in contempt of court over an earlier order.  CD WOW! imports CDs from Hong Kong and was found to have sold to the UK discs which were only licensed for sale in Asia.  That was discovered by test purchases made by music label trade body the British Phonographic Industry (BPI).

That offence is called parallel importing and involves a breach of copyright. CD WOW! had previously promised to a court not to engage in parallel importing. 

The High Court has found that it broke the agreement and breached copyright law. It has ordered it to pay a fine to the Crown and damages for copyright infringement and legal costs to the record labels and the BPI.

Google will soon reduce the amount of information it stores about its users and their searches. The change to the search giant’s policy has been welcomed by privacy activists. Google currently stores search terms along with the internet protocol addresses which could be used at a later date to help identify the people behind a query.

The company has said that it will now delete the IP addresses after between 18 and 24 months. It will continue to store the search information for as long it deems it useful. 

Google said that its decision was taken after consultation with privacy groups in Europe and the US. The search engine firm said that it was retaining logs for up to 24 months to comply with data retention laws and that it may have to extend the limit if other laws are passed which demand longer retention. 

That was this week’s OUT-LAW news


It started with Richard and Judy. It spread to Ant and Dec’s Saturday Night Takeaway, did for phone-in station ITV Play, and finally corrupted that beacon of innocence and decency, Blue Peter. The premium rate phone line scandal sweeping the world of television has been swift and shocking. 

Serious sums of money have been taken off viewers who thought they were in with a chance of winning phone in competitions. At up to a pound a time entries didn’t come cheap, but viewers put their faith in broadcasters only to find that despite presenters encouraging them to phone in in their thousands, winners had already been chosen or the programmes were pre-recorded. 

But whatever the results of inquiries by broadcast regulator Ofcom and premium rate phone regulator ICSTIS, the landscape for competitions is about to change and radically. OUT-LAW Radio has discovered that premium phone operators will soon have to apply for lottery licences if they are going to stay in business. 

It is all down to new gambling legislation which was passed in 2005 and comes into effect this September. Julian Harris of Harris Hagan, a law firm specialising in gambling law explains:

“The lottery is of three elements. Payment to participate, questions which are based on chance rather than skill and a prize at the end of it. So most of those competitions because their skill and because there is no payment, they do not constitute a lottery. So the actual competition that takes part on the television is fine. The difficulty is in looking at how you actually get to participate as a caller and the way the law will look at those competitions is that the first part is a separate event as it were and that is almost certainly a lottery and the way in which of course they make their money is by the fact, as you say, that they are premium rate phone lines and that is where the income is generated.”

It is all down to the very technical definition of what is and what is not a lottery in the new legislation This is something which the old Act somewhat fudged, but is made crystal clear in the new one.  The Gambling Commission has published its views on the matter and it says that there are certain defining factors of a lottery: you are required to pay to participate; prizes are awarded and the winner is chosen entirely by chance. 

Think of the cheesy late night call in quiz shows typified by the now defunct ITV Play channel. Thousands of callers pay premium rate phone line prices to answer a question which is embarrassingly simple. Some are chosen at random for the opportunity to answer the question on air and win a prize. This, say some, is a lottery because the question is so simple that it can never be considered a game of skill. 

Scott Davis is founder and director of Million 2-1, a mobile phone and internet games company which does hold a lottery licence.

“Currently if you look at a lot of the services, they are generally operating in the realms of luck, you know they are games of chance and any game of chance is technically classified as a lottery and I think if you look at a lot of things you know take the call TV shows at the moment, which are blatant lotteries where you call in and you get selected to go on air you're going to have to either give a real free route entry which obviously questions the commercialisation of what is the point of doing these shows or get a lottery licence and do them under the correct legislation.”

It is unlikely that broadcasters or TV production companies will be rushing to become lottery licence holders. Davis explained that licences can cost up to £30,000 and there are other obstacles too.

“In terms of getting that lottery licence the company goes under quite a lot of scrutiny so the people behind the company the directors, shareholders have to fill in quite an extensive form. The people behind the company are monitored so things like bankruptcy if you have got any discrepancies that may make you a less than desirable person you will not get the lottery licence.  You know you have to give a minimum of 20% to support a good cause. If you are paying as a consumer £1 then 20p of that £1 will go to good causes.”

So what will they do? This is a fiercely lucrative business. The now-axed ITV Play earned its parent company £54 million in 2006. Voting revenues are a staple part of the income for shows such as the X-Factor or Big Brother. 

Well, programmers have two ways out. They can get around the stipulation that if it is paid for it is a lottery, or they can get around the fact that it is deemed not to be a game of skill.  Each though has its problems. Harris explains:

“But I suppose you can say if you want to take part in any of our programmes you know which take place for example every Wednesday evening at 7.00 pm then write in with your phone number and we will call you. I mean that would be one way of doing it. I am not quite sure how practical that would be. The other way would be to ensure that the first part of it is also dealt with on the basis of skill with skill based questions or alternatively not to charge for the initial phone call, but of course, that is rather difficult because that is where the income is generated. So I think that probably would not be a practical route for them.”

The Gambling Commission said in its recent consultation paper on the issue that many TV channels are currently breaking the rules that will come in in September. This is what it said:

“Good examples are the TV quiz shows on dedicated channels which have sprung up in the last two or three years. Commonly participants call to enter via a premium rate telephone number or calls are connected and therefore all callers have to pay for the premium rate call but only a limited and small number are randomly selected to be put through to the studio to attempt to answer the question asked or to complete a puzzle.

"All such channels will either have to stop operating altogether or operate under the provisions relating to lotteries, including the requirements to obtain a Gambling Commission Licence and at least 20% of the proceeds must be contributed to a good cause or ensure that they operate such that they fall within the provisions relating to either prize competitions or free draws.

"Prize competitions are those in which success depends, at least in part, on the exercise of skill judgement or knowledge by the participants. This distinguishes them from lotteries, where success depends wholly on chance.”

The new rules will revolutionise the new industry of premium rate competitions. Programmers will face the prospect of either making competitions harder and thus dissuading many people fom participating and losing income or providing a genuinely free route to entry and risk losing money that way. Whichever way the programme makers jump the troubles premium rate operators face now look like they are just the beginning.


A court has ruled that computer games developers can sometimes copy elements from other people’s games and not break the law. But a technology law expert has warned against would-be copycats taking the Nova Games ruling as a pilferer’s charter.

Nova Productions sued two other game developers over the use of devices in games simulating pool that it said breached copyright in its game which was called Pocket Money. The Court of Appeal disagreed, saying that not every piece of invention or skill is protected by copyright law. 

The case inhabits a long acknowledged grey area of copyright law one where it is not quite clear to what extent ideas can be copyrighted. Struan Robertson, a technology lawyer with Pinsent Masons, the law firm behind OUT-LAW explains:

“If you are looking for something that displays a level of originality, if that is absent if something in a particular game has been done elsewhere, it will be difficult to assert copyright.”

Elements of games are very definitely protected ruled the Appeal Court. Individual images and the actual source code do receive protection and so do less tangible elements such as plot.

In all, says Robertson, this should be viewed as a welcome clarification but not as a green light for copycat game development.

“What is really important here though is the judge is not saying that parts of any game could be copied. He is saying that you do not have copyright in general ideas but he is not going so far as to say that you cannot protect some forms of idea with copyright.  Now, it is really difficult to take that ruling and say in all circumstances whether something will and will not infringe and certainly games developers would be unwise to interpret this ruling as carte blanche to start copying other games. That is certainly not what the judgment is saying.”

That is all we have time for this week.  Thanks for listening.


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OUT-LAW Radio was produced and presented by Matthew Magee for international law firm Pinsent Pasons. Gambling Commision extracts read by Claire Dancer.

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