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OUT-LAW Radio, 08/05/2008

As ITV faces a £5.7m fine, we ask an industry rep why nobody noticed the abuses while they happened


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Hello and welcome to OUT-LAW Radio, the weekly podcast that keeps you up to date on all the twists and turns in the world of technology law.

Every week we bring you the latest news and in depth features that help you to make sense of the ever changing laws that govern technology today.

My name is Matthew Magee, and this week we ask the trade body behind premium phone line operators why nobody noticed that operators spent much of last year fleecing punters.

But first, the news:

Rowling wins privacy victory for son and OUT-LAW wins a webby

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A Court of Appeal ruling in Rowling's favour has reinforced the circumstances in which people are entitled to the protection of Article 8 of the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR), said Rosemary Jay, Head of the Information Law Team at Pinsent Masons, the law firm behind OUT-LAW.

"The Court of Appeal has confirmed that Article 8 is engaged whenever people have a 'reasonable expectation of privacy' and that can occur at quite an ordinary level, which is very helpful," she said.

Rowling took the case with her husband on behalf of her son, David Murray, who was part of a photograph of the family on the street in 2004 that was published in 2005. At the time of the photo, David was 19 months old.

The High Court had thrown the case out before trial, but the Court of Appeal said that there was a case to answer and a full trial should be heard.

OUT-LAW has won the internet's most prestigious award, a Webby. It won in the category of best law website, becoming the first law firm ever to win a Webby in the awards' 12 year history.
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As well as being the first law firm winner, OUT-LAW was also the first ever nominee for 'Best law website' from a non US organisation.

That was this week's out-law news.


ITV has just been fined £5.7 million today for breaching media regulator Ofcom's code over abuse of premium rate phone services, so what would you call a year in which your industry was the cause of millions of pounds worth of punitive fines, endless outraged front pages, a restructuring of the way popular television works, a BBC ban on competitions and a loss of the public's trust?

Catastrophic? Nightmarish? Apocalyptic? Sally Weatherall chooses 'interesting'. She is the chair of the association for interactive media and entertainment, or AIME, the representative body for providers of premium rate phone services.

This week's is Ofcom's highest ever fine, and goes on top of the £7.8m that ITV has committed to viewer compensation and charity. ITV is not alone, though. Last year phone in scandals dominated the news and turned participation from a lucrative trend into a dirty word.

We'll hear how Weatherall thinks regulation still needs to be improved later, but first let's hear her assessment of what, by anyone's standards, has been an annus horribilis.

Weatherall:  It's been a very interesting year and I think coming into the second half of this year, I think it's going to be entirely constructive. I think there's a much broader recognition of the impact of these interactive services and their utility and their value to consumers; but also the responsibilities that go along with that. I think what was greatly underestimated and, frankly I don't think there was very much transparency of it at all, was the regulation responsibility that went alongside that in terms of operating these services. I do think it was a straightforward as there being a complete lack of transparency in terms of the broadcasters making the connection that this was a premium rate service and was therefore regulated. It's a new sector of the industry outside their traditional Ofcom-licensed broadcast environment.

Premium rate phone lines are regulated by PhonepayPlus, which used to be called ICSTIS. It only regulates the companies that actually provide the services, not the broadcasters or the producers of the TV programmes behind phone votes.
Weatherall puts the breaking of the rules down to broadcasters' failure to understand the regulatory environment.

Weatherall:  It is a micro payment to express yourself, to have your vote or to submit your comments or to influence the content of a programme. I think, you know, that at one level it's a kind of self contained service. It's a different thing to say that this is a sort of more traditional premium rate service and therefore it precipitates the regulations and so on and the transparency and the reach of those regulations to the actual content providers themselves is that there isn't a sort of direct link if you know what I mean.

The fines involved very large service provider companies dealing with massive volumes of material. Some of the industry's big names were involved. So was this a failing of the premium rate industry at a pretty basic level?

Weatherall:  No I don’t think it's fair to say that that's the description of an entire industry in any shape or form. You know clearly there was non compliance and that non compliance has been fined and quite rightly so. In isolation they were a limited number of companies who were involved in that activity and to the extent that they were responsible then they've been fined. And that's exactly what the regulation is there for.

Magee:   But these were not one or two small rogue operators that - there may be not that many of them but they were the biggest companies and they were the companies processing vast numbers of transactions. I mean you think - you can't really say that it was small rogue operators.

Weatherall:  Well I can't comment as to what, you know, went through their own minds and in terms of, you know, the management decisions that they were made but to the extent that they've acted in a non compliant way, the regulation has been entirely effective. And you know the consumers have had the redress that they need and the companies have been fined accordingly.

Magee:   When this was going on before it came to light, why did nobody notice at the time? Why did nobody take charge as it was happening because it was endemic?

Weatherall:  Well I don't think it's fair to say it was endemic but

Magee:   You don't think every UK terrestrial broadcaster being involved on multiples of shows, on millions of transactions, is endemic?

Weatherall:  Well we can argue about what we mean by endemic. I mean it was - as I say I just don't think at a very basic level that there was this sufficient transparency and enforcement of the regulation. I mean it's a good question to ask Ofcom.

Of course the scandals led to Ofcom completely changing the way such competitions are regulated, telling broadcasters that they, and not just the premium rate service provider companies, are ultimately responsible for competitions.

Weatherall thinks this is a good idea, but the trouble is that Ofcom doesn't regulate newspapers, which also run many premium rate competitions. She thinks that PhonepayPlus, or PPP, should extend its regulation directly to newspapers.

Weatherall:  I don't understand why the same approach hasn't been taken to those who market and manage services in the print media and on the internet etc, etc. I think it's slightly patronising in fact to say that it is only the broadcasting environment that requires this level of direct regulation. The regulation bites on the technology provider for the infringements of the content providers and clearly the technology provider has no control either managerially or editorially over the content that is advertised in the press, magazines and on the internet etc. And it's an issue of scale for PPP because clearly there are a number of content providers and only a handful of service providers; and so it's easier for them to regulate the service providers. But it's simply not effective.

PhonepayPlus told us that it can take action against publishers but only when they agree to be regulated by it. A spokesman said: "It is a question of proportionality. Lots of broadcasters were asking customers for tens of millions of pounds, that was evidence that a regulatory approach was necessary. There is no such smoking gun with publishers. Is it endemic or systemic, in need of strategic approach? The answer is no, not to anything like the same degree as in broadcasting in the last year."

So after more than a year of turbulence for premium rate phone operators the regulatory environment is settling down, but the service providers may yet push for the net to be cast wider in the


That's all we have time for this week, thanks for listening.
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